Five smart people talk about writing

I've just listened to a podcast made at IFCA, in which Eileen Gunn, Cecilia Holland, Paul Park, and Theodora Goss, moderated by Karen Burnham, discuss writing workshops as well as the pedagogy of writing generally. Their conversation includes fascinating insights about the writing process. I especially love their insistence in blurring the lines between writing critical essays and writing fiction. You can listen to it here. 

Oh, and there's a bonus: Eileen reveals what Bill Gibson told her was the "secret of writing."