tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post3654609552359660386..comments2024-03-03T13:55:46.243-08:00Comments on Ambling Along the Aqueduct: In search of a "contemporary language" for feminismTimmi Duchamphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00673465487533328661noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-64759530027913843652010-08-02T11:51:25.502-07:002010-08-02T11:51:25.502-07:00This is fascinating. As for the broader question -...This is fascinating. As for the broader question - how can feminists talk to each other - I wonder if it has less to do with the rich traditions from the 1960s and 1970s than with a confusion over which tradition people are coming from. I almost think all feminists should have an encyclopedia of feminisms they could turn to . . .<br /><br />And this conversation reminds me of a conversation I observed on Feministe. A guest blogger named Maia drew fire for a post on the inclusion of children's spaces, and in her next post, dated July 28th, 2010, titled "ain't I a mama"? she talked about some of her problems with "mainstream feminism." What-stream feminism? She didn't use polite white-middle class language to do it. The result was 437 comments attacking and defending her, which resulted in a change of moderation policy on Feministe. Nobody ever defined what she meant by "mainstream feminism." Race didn't enter the conversation for quite some time, and class was largely absent from beginning to end. I read through a lot of comments and then gave up in despair. How can we talk about how we talk about feminism???<br /><br />Here's maia's post:<br /><br />http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2010/07/28/aint-i-a-mama/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07261156769469311687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-27657341374930485982010-08-02T10:30:31.046-07:002010-08-02T10:30:31.046-07:00You're right about that third "sic"-...You're right about that third "sic"-- ^ I've removed it. Thanks. I think that construction must have been getting on my nerves...Timmi Duchamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00673465487533328661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-16483953477831938712010-08-02T09:39:12.168-07:002010-08-02T09:39:12.168-07:00I apologize for not having something more substant...I apologize for not having something more substantial to add to this very interesting discussion, but may I just mention that the third "[sic]" is unnecessary? "Jen and I have been told" is correct, just as "I have been told" would be correct. Thanks.<br /><br />Helen Schinskehschinskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10316478950862562594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-88301041058531756732010-08-02T09:27:08.123-07:002010-08-02T09:27:08.123-07:00Lesley, There are still people who are outraged wh...Lesley, There are still people who are outraged when one says "suffragette" instead of "suffragist." It's like the Trotskyites.<br /><br />That said, it seems to me that "African American" spread very quickly thanks to the advocacy of a very small group. Possible "black" as well.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914730499199048197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-38903618102702169042010-08-02T02:16:41.330-07:002010-08-02T02:16:41.330-07:00I'm not sure you can 'create' language...I'm not sure you can 'create' language that people will use. The term 'Women's Liberation' arose organically out of its particular historical context of the marginalisation of women's interests in other liberation movements (and was in itself not exactly unproblematic). Similarly 'suffragette' was a reclaiming of the journalistic term.Lesley Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03137128342422073459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-72837491771376760172010-08-01T20:02:32.357-07:002010-08-01T20:02:32.357-07:00This reminds me of nothing so much as Gramsci'...This reminds me of nothing so much as Gramsci's having had to use code words for "Marxism", "Communism", &c. when he was in a fascist prison.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914730499199048197noreply@blogger.com