tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post1133804466224317297..comments2024-03-03T13:55:46.243-08:00Comments on Ambling Along the Aqueduct: . . . And The White Rage Never EndsTimmi Duchamphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00673465487533328661noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-88669536233990559402009-01-31T10:57:00.000-08:002009-01-31T10:57:00.000-08:00Josh, I don't do philosophy much! My experience an...Josh, I don't do philosophy much! My experience and observation say that anyone who is both thoughtful and moral-- and really, it's astonishing how many people are-- wants to get it, and as soon as possible.Stella Omegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13301654872790964794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-20430754582855185262009-01-31T06:11:00.000-08:002009-01-31T06:11:00.000-08:00Stella, your testimony that such a "line of defens...Stella, your testimony that such a "line of defense" is in fact pregnable (izzat a word?) is encouraging.<BR/><BR/><I>But how long does one get to prance about being pouty?</I> Great question. As Timmi says, we're talking here about a "psychological defense" --a compensation for what I've seen called "ego weakness." Reading recent commments at Micole's, I find that a beloved British journalist of Timmi's generation has made almost <I>exactly</I> the defensive remarks that Timmi describes here so well.<BR/><BR/>So, although it's tempting to think that personal experience expands the moral imagination of a thoughtful person, the ability to listen on the part of the white interlocutor does not correlate with having been stigmatized or marginalized oneself. I'm curious, then, about the "almost" in that "almost impregnable." What can mitigate that defensiveness? Or is an answer to that already implicit in my post above?Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914730499199048197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-34822424811433428732009-01-29T19:41:00.000-08:002009-01-29T19:41:00.000-08:00think of "racism" as merely a set of unc...<I>think of "racism" as merely a set of uncouth verbal mannerisms & the nasty violence of the Ku Klux Klan & other white supremacist gangs</I><BR/><BR/>Timmi Duchamp has said it-- I know that the first time I was told I was being racist, that was my reaction. <BR/><BR/>But how long does anyone get to prance around being being pouty? Not long,not if I really cared that I'd hurt people. Which is what is killing me about what I've been witnessing, and the ways in which some of the worst cases of self-entitlement are being shown off like precious possessions.<BR/> <BR/>Well, I've been explaining to other white people ever since, that that notion is incorrect. Some start to get it quickly, some not right away, some... not ever. <BR/><BR/>Maybe SF writers are SF writers for a reason? Maybe it's a reason I don't want to know about?Stella Omegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13301654872790964794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-974265389668675372009-01-26T15:59:00.000-08:002009-01-26T15:59:00.000-08:00ah, that made a lot more sense. thanks for the cla...ah, that made a lot more sense. thanks for the clarification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-43324633578885783422009-01-25T05:07:00.000-08:002009-01-25T05:07:00.000-08:00Yeh, the disconnect between that facile final sent...Yeh, the disconnect between that facile final sentence and what I seemed to be doing earlier in the post bothered me too. I've changed it.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914730499199048197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5360814020056871156.post-21855539359347162392009-01-23T08:38:00.000-08:002009-01-23T08:38:00.000-08:00I was struck by an article yesterday (I don't reme...I was struck by an article yesterday (I don't remember the source, unfortunately, since it was encountered during transit) but it basically was bemoaning the fact that many of the whites on the Washington "A" list might be bumped off by blacks. The amount of indignation over this sort of thing is appalling in its willingness to showcase how taken-for-granted white privilege often (usually?) is.Cat Rambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787563576714190527noreply@blogger.com